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Post  Mel on 9/23/2011, 12:27 am

So Zoe's got these brown/black spots on her netherregion. I've been watching them for a few weeks now. some of them start a little raised and then scab over. some just spots. I finally took her to the vet tonight and he said he's never seen it. and they see alot of pugs! he's heard of it, but wasn't sure, so he took a swab and looked at it under the microscope. there was a little bacteria so she's on antibiotics. he also took a pic and is emailing it to a local dermatologist. he's gonna call me tomorrow after he speaks to her. let's hope it's not anything the antibiotics won't clear up.
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Post  Aussie Witch on 9/23/2011, 4:39 am

Poor Zoe! Is he going to culture the bacteria so he will know for sure? Hope the meds clear it all up.
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Post  SacramentoPugs on 9/23/2011, 12:15 pm

Don't you just love when a doctor or a vet says, "Hmmm, never seen THAT before!" So frustrating!

Here's hoping it's nothing. As my vet likes to say, "Pugs get lots of little uglies."
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Post  Pugsaunt on 9/23/2011, 3:20 pm

Everything crossed and a prayer that it turns out to be nothing and the antibiotics clear it right up. Those little black divas do keep us hopping!
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Post  Mel on 9/24/2011, 1:41 pm

ok, heard back from the vet. thankfully I didn't talk him and he left a voicemail so I could listen to it a few times. some of this is phonetically spelled to bear with me. it could be viral plax, but the dermatologist thinks it's more like makennafied apio dermalegions (??), a response to secondary infection. so we'll keep her on abx for awhile to see if it will take care of it.



I thought it was nice of him to email the pic and not just send me to the specialist, which would have cost more $$.
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Post  northernwitch on 9/24/2011, 2:08 pm

Pigmented Viral Plaques. Tank has them. Pugs are prone to them. I'd never heard of them either, and neither had my vet, but we biopsied one and sent it off and it was pigmented viral plaque.

Someone on this board had dealt with them before--one of the Brendas maybe?

There's isn't really a treatment for them but I'm going to try Lysine with them as it's effective on feline herpes (yeah, I know--who knew cats got herpes.) Lysine is supposed to be very effective with viruses.

My homeo vet also suggested I try Co-enzyme Q10 with Tank.
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Post  northernwitch on 9/24/2011, 2:12 pm

It's a form of papilloma virus. Here's a video of Tank's:

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Post  Mel on 9/24/2011, 2:53 pm

do Tank's spots scab over?
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Post  northernwitch on 9/24/2011, 2:58 pm

Mel wrote:do Tank's spots scab over?
Well, I would describe some of them as more wart like rather than scabbed over--raised rough surface. Some are flat and some are raised. They only really scab over when he itches one open.

Here's a good link on warts, papillomas and plaques...

http://www.gopetsamerica.com/dog-health/papilloma.aspx
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Post  Two Crazy Pugs on 9/25/2011, 2:58 am

Gidget gets the same things. They seem to appear when she is having other skin issues. They go away with antibiotics and come back when her skin is stressed. Makes sense what your vet said. We are doing allergy testing now to see if we can get to the root of the problem. Hugs to little Zoe!!!!
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Post  Mel on 9/25/2011, 11:41 am

I hope it's what Gidge has because if they go away with the abx then they aren't cancerous.



Do you know how soon before you saw them disappear? Zoe's been on abx since Friday.
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Post  Two Crazy Pugs on 9/25/2011, 1:38 pm

Mel wrote:I hope it's what Gidge has because if they go away with the abx then they aren't cancerous.



Do you know how soon before you saw them disappear? Zoe's been on abx since Friday.

It depends on how bad they are. Sometimes a few will pop up and go away with antibiotics within a few days. Other times a bunch will appear (along with bad skin issues) and it takes longer. I hope Zoe gets feeling better!
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Post  Pugsaunt on 9/26/2011, 1:31 pm

Fingers and toes and paws crossed and major prayers heading south for Zoe.
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Post  Saira on 9/28/2011, 3:32 pm

Mel wrote:I hope it's what Gidge has because if they go away with the abx then they aren't cancerous.



Do you know how soon before you saw them disappear? Zoe's been on abx since Friday.



Are Zoe's bumps getting better?
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Post  Mel on 9/28/2011, 7:35 pm

I think so! it's hard to say when you look at them every day. they certainly aren't getting any worse. The vet said it would take a couple of rounds to clear it up.
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