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Post  Pugsaunt on 1/21/2013, 4:59 pm

OK, Blanche and others, when you say you flood their kibble with water, how high is the flood? Is the kibble swimming, or just wading? Do you drop the kibble in the deep end, or do you let it soak? I don't think I'm getting it right. And do you ever use low sodium chicken broth, or just water?
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Post  Rebecca and the Pugs on 1/21/2013, 5:04 pm

This is what I do for my pugs and my foster Boston: I flood the kibble with water so it floats and put it in the fridge for the next meal. At meal time, I then add additional water to the top, and heat it up in the microwave (about 20-30 seconds for each bowl). I then prepare the food for the next meal. They eat two meals a day.
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Post  ayleash on 1/21/2013, 5:07 pm

I toss the measure of kibble into a bowl, and a little less than the same measure of water... It goes right into their tummies with the kibble...

If I were to let it soak as described above, I'd probably feed less kibble as it sure swells up when I do that!
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Post  Renee on 1/21/2013, 5:16 pm

My pugs are on THK - but for fosters I always flood the kibble too. I measure in the kibble and then add about the same amount of water (1/3 to 1/4 cup). I use hot, hot water (I will use chicken stock on occassion).

Let it 'cook' for about 15 minutes while THK is also hydrating and then good to go.

I like Rebecca's routine. If I was a kibble feeder, I would probably do the same thing.
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Post  ayleash on 1/21/2013, 6:26 pm

hee hee... I am using very wet THK as the water in my Ohna's kibble! And I leave IT prepped and soaking from meal to meal - I make about 4 meals worth in a tupperware at a time... and I make it very wet... so I shake it and pour it over the kibble!
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Post  northernwitch on 1/21/2013, 6:28 pm

A cup or more of water or unsalted stock. I leave kibble out to absorb whatever water it can. But I usually use at least a cup of water....
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Post  Brenda on 1/21/2013, 9:33 pm

Okay, I give, what's the purpose of this?
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Post  northernwitch on 1/21/2013, 10:47 pm

Brenda wrote:Okay, I give, what's the purpose of this?

Serves a couple of purposes, Brenda. I have had several dogs that had issues with hydration and a couple of dogs with ongoing UTI/Crystal issues. The flooding the food increases fluid intake which encourages peeing which flushes bladder. It is both preventive for UTIs and crystals and can help clear a crystal dog of crystals. The reason the vet diets work is that most are loaded with salt which makes dogs drink more. I think the salt content has the potential to be damaging over the long haul, so I opt to flood food rather than use a high salt food.

Dry kibble is also the least bio-available and tends to suck moisture out of the stomach and system to expand and digest. There is some evidence that soaked kibble is less likely to increase risk of bloat--although the information about bloat is all over the map.

Many people object to flooding kibble on the theory that chewing kibble keeps teeth clean and helps eliminate tartar. This is mostly mythology. Most dogs don't actually chew their kibble much (some do, but most don't) unless the kibble is massive. And most don't chew it enough, if they do chew it, to have much effect on dental hygiene.
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Post  SacramentoPugs on 1/22/2013, 1:26 am

That "crunchy food keeps their teeth clean!" routine is just so tired, isn't it? If I'm getting nowhere trying to debunk that myth with someone, I usually ask them if they'd rely on a bag of Corn Nuts a day in lieu of having their kids brush their teeth. Works almost every time. Wink
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Post  LisaIzzyAggy on 1/22/2013, 1:32 am

I do it to slow down eating and to get more water into them to decrease UTI's. My girls get 1/4 cup of kibble and I add 1/3 cup of warm water and serve immediately. I usually throw in a heaping teaspoon of canned also.
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Post  Brenda on 1/22/2013, 1:05 pm

hmm.... I may have to try this. Shasta inhales her food and they are both on Royal Canin Urinary SO as Dewey keeps getting crystals (Shasta did too). Interesting.
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Post  ayleash on 1/22/2013, 1:28 pm

I will also add - and remember, I am not with pug at present - I have changed to "large breed" sized kibble for my terriers. Well, only one is on it so far, the other is finishing off a fair amount of other kibbles that did not agree with Mr. Fancy Gut... but he is clearly stopping and crunching the larger kibbles, which I confess "sounds" better to me than the slurping inhalation... That being said, nothing has come up from below from either of them in a long time, but when it did/does, it was clearly unchewed...

The ingredients are the same, the kcal per ounce/gram only minutely different (in favor of the larger kibbles), and the large kibbles are the size of grapes, while the small ones are the size of peas.
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Post  akc0104 on 1/22/2013, 2:29 pm

I need to do this too. The only time Matilda consistantly drinks is when I come home. If I walk in the front door, she goes and gets a drink but I rarely see her drink at other times.

But I am afraid of the barking and screaming while the food is soaking.
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Post  ayleash on 1/22/2013, 4:57 pm

akc0104 wrote:I need to do this too. The only time Matilda consistantly drinks is when I come home. If I walk in the front door, she goes and gets a drink but I rarely see her drink at other times.

But I am afraid of the barking and screaming while the food is soaking.

Just a note on this behavior - mine do this too and I consider it "self-monitoring." They know I am home, so we are going out (a) right away, and (b) before I leave them again, so now is a GREAT time to water up... I shows brilliance, imho!
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Post  Pugsaunt on 1/22/2013, 6:16 pm

Thanks, all. I'll switch Ms. Thang to a ceramic bowl, have the kibble swimming, microwave it, and then add her yogurt and pumpkin.
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Post  northernwitch on 1/22/2013, 6:33 pm

Here's how avoid the screaming--I put a large tupperware bowl of kibble with water together after they have eaten. Leave bowl for water to soak into kibble, then cover and put in fridge. Bring out when I feed and either let it warm up or nuke it slightly or put in bowl and add additional hot water. Limits the "OMG! The food is out and she's not serving it up. Let's scream our heads off".

I should add that I never, ever feed kibble dry. Never have.
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Post  Banditsmom on 1/22/2013, 8:01 pm

This is all very intersting, thank you for the information and to the person who asked ,,, why is everyone doing this.

I too will have to try this.
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Post  Pugsaunt on 1/24/2013, 6:05 pm

northernwitch wrote:Here's how avoid the screaming--I put a large tupperware bowl of kibble with water together after they have eaten. Leave bowl for water to soak into kibble, then cover and put in fridge. Bring out when I feed and either let it warm up or nuke it slightly or put in bowl and add additional hot water. Limits the "OMG! The food is out and she's not serving it up. Let's scream our heads off".

I should add that I never, ever feed kibble dry. Never have.
Great idea, Blanche. While Penny is loving her flooded kibble/pumpkin/yogurt, she is also lecturing me about what a major crime against pugdom I am committing by making her wait.

Banditsmom wrote:This is all very intersting, thank you for the information and to the person who asked ,,, why is everyone doing this.

I too will have to try this.
I wanted to be sure that Penny is getting enough fluids - her urine is a bit stronger-smelling. I knew that Blanche and others flood their pugs' kibble, just didn't know if it should be drowning, swimming, or wading.
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Post  northernwitch on 1/24/2013, 8:49 pm

The flooding is more important for dogs that have some UTI/crystal history or aren't big drinkers. But I do it anyway even with the raw, I add a fair bit of water.
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Post  Deanna on 1/26/2013, 12:10 am

I also feed Royal Canin S/O and this has been the only food that has kept the crystals away and I have tried multiple things. But I do add water to their food when they eat as I know they don't drink much when we aren't home. I feed a 1/2 cup at each feeding and I would say I add about 1/4 cup water.
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Post  papaspugs on 1/27/2013, 10:47 am

Violet is very prone to UTIs so I have always done it with her food. But it is really just easier to do it for all of them. I make up this food a week at a time by putting the exact portion for each pug in a container with their name and with either AM/PM on it. I usually fix a day or two at time with water and will put them in the fridge. I put enough water so that the kibble is completely soaked and ther is a little extra water in the bottom still. Either in the morning or evenings, I can put the containers in the microwave for about 15 secs while I take them outside and then when we come in their food is ready. For the ones that still have teeth, they get bully sticks a couple of times a week to chew on and "floss".
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Post  northernwitch on 1/28/2013, 1:48 pm

General rule of thumb around flooding is--whatever the measure of dry food then double or preferably triple that with water or stock. So if I'm feeding 1/4 cup of dry, I add 1/2 to 3/4 cup of water or stock.
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Post  Pugsaunt on 1/28/2013, 5:55 pm

Yup, Penny's now getting 1/8 cup of kibble with 1/3 cup of water and a blop of pumpkin and a blop of fat-free Greek yogurt. It makes a kinda pumpkin soup with yogurt floating islands and soft kibble croutons. She loves it.
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Post  pugsrule on 5/17/2013, 9:03 pm

I started flooding my two who eat kibbles food.One of mine eats raw and I dont add any water to hers.I did this for about 4 months and I finally figuired out why My oldest Bella who is almost 11 started peeing all over the house!!I thought maybe she was just getting old or had a UTI which she has never had,I made an apt. for her but before we got in I stopped all the flooding of the kibble and she stopped peeing:DSo now I only dripp a few drops of warm water on the food to mix in the topper.
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Post  donnag on 5/24/2013, 10:30 am

I mini flood! I do 1/3 cup kibble and 1/3 cup water, they moslty only get kibble in the morning at night they get wet or if I do kibble at night they get yogurt or pumpkin in it.
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